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Kermodian: "A style of criticism that involves both wit and erudition, but also a certain world-weary curmudgeonliness" - ''Ian Brooks, managing editor of Collins Dictionaries and Thesauruses''
 
Kermodian: "A style of criticism that involves both wit and erudition, but also a certain world-weary curmudgeonliness" - ''Ian Brooks, managing editor of Collins Dictionaries and Thesauruses''
  
The good Dr K has, upon times, become more than usually agitated by what he sees as the particularly poor qualities of a film. When this happens it has become known as a Kermodian rant. The good Dr M has observed that for a film to incur a full blown Kermodian Rant there has to be a "secondary infection", whereby the film is not only exhibiting poor quality, but is also offensive in some way to the [[Old Trot]].
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[[Mark Kermode]] has, upon times, become more than usually agitated by what he sees as the particularly poor qualities of a film. When this happens it has become known as a Kermodian rant. [[Simon Mayo]] has observed that for a film to incur a full blown Kermodian Rant there has to be a "secondary infection", whereby the film is not only exhibiting poor quality, but is also offensive in some way to the [[Old Trot]].
  
 
The phrase has its origins in a long argument debate between Mark and Simon about the word "[[Lacanian]]" in [[Basic Instinct 2]] (in the words of [[David Morrissey]], "there is one joke in Basic Instinct 2 - and I think you have killed it.") It was in response to this that a listener (Joe in Leeds) suggested that someone critiquing the arts in a gloriously lengthy rant should be described as Kermodian. Thus, an adjective was born.
 
The phrase has its origins in a long argument debate between Mark and Simon about the word "[[Lacanian]]" in [[Basic Instinct 2]] (in the words of [[David Morrissey]], "there is one joke in Basic Instinct 2 - and I think you have killed it.") It was in response to this that a listener (Joe in Leeds) suggested that someone critiquing the arts in a gloriously lengthy rant should be described as Kermodian. Thus, an adjective was born.
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Kermodian has been used in the Northern Ireland assembly.
 
Kermodian has been used in the Northern Ireland assembly.
  
Films that produced especially notable rants have been:
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Films that produced notable rants, or are otherwise detested by Mark even many years after release, have been:
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*[[The Accidental Husband]] (2008)
  
 
*[[Angels and Demons]] (2009)
 
*[[Angels and Demons]] (2009)
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*[[August Rush]] (2007)
  
 
*[[The Back Up Plan]] (2010)
 
*[[The Back Up Plan]] (2010)
  
 
*[[Babel]] (2006)
 
*[[Babel]] (2006)
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*[[Boxing Helena]] (1993)
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*[[Breaking The Waves]] (1996)
  
 
*[[Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan]] (2006)
 
*[[Borat: Cultural Learnings Of America For Make Benefit Glorious Nation Of Kazakhstan]] (2006)
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*[[Charles Dickens's England]] (2009)
 
*[[Charles Dickens's England]] (2009)
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*[[CHiPS]] (2017)
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*[[Closer]] (2004)
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*[[College Road Trip]] (2008)
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*[[Couples Retreat]] (2009)
  
 
*[[Daddy Day Camp]] (2007)
 
*[[Daddy Day Camp]] (2007)
  
 
*[[The Da Vinci Code]] (2006) ([[TURN THE LIGHTS ON]])
 
*[[The Da Vinci Code]] (2006) ([[TURN THE LIGHTS ON]])
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*[[Dance Flick]] (2009)
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*[[Date Movie]] (2005)
  
 
*[[Death Proof]] (2007)
 
*[[Death Proof]] (2007)
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*[[Dirty Sanchez: The Movie]] (2006)
 
*[[Dirty Sanchez: The Movie]] (2006)
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*[[Disaster Movie]] (2008)
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*[[DOA: Dead Or Alive]] (2006)
  
 
*[[Domino]] (2005)
 
*[[Domino]] (2005)
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*[[Eat Pray Love]] (2010)
 
*[[Eat Pray Love]] (2010)
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*[[The Emoji Movie]] (2017)
  
 
*[[Entourage]] (2015)
 
*[[Entourage]] (2015)
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*[[Film Socialisme]] (2010)
 
*[[Film Socialisme]] (2010)
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*[[Franklyn]] (2009)
  
 
*[[Fred Claus]] (2007)
 
*[[Fred Claus]] (2007)
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*[[The Future]] (2011)
 
*[[The Future]] (2011)
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*[[Woola Woola Woola|Gamer]] (2009)
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*[[Geostorm]] (2017)
  
 
*[[Good Luck Chuck]] (2007)
 
*[[Good Luck Chuck]] (2007)
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*[[A Good Year]] (2006)
 
*[[A Good Year]] (2006)
  
*[[Green Street]] (or Green Street Hooligans) (2009)
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*[[Green Street]] (or Green Street Hooligans) (2005)
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*[[The Hills Have Eyes 2]] (2006)
  
 
*[[The Holiday]] (2006)
 
*[[The Holiday]] (2006)
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*[[The Hottie And The Nottie]] (2008)
 
*[[The Hottie And The Nottie]] (2008)
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*[[The House Bunny]] (2008)
  
 
*[[In Her Shoe]] (2005)
 
*[[In Her Shoe]] (2005)
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*[[Little Man]] (2006)
 
*[[Little Man]] (2006)
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*[[Love Happens]] (2009)
  
 
*[[Love's Kitchen]] (2011)
 
*[[Love's Kitchen]] (2011)
  
*[[Margot At The Wedding]] (2007)
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*[[Made Of Honor]] (2008)
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*[[Margot At The Wedding]] (2008)
  
 
*[[Marley And Me]] (2008)
 
*[[Marley And Me]] (2008)
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*[[Mrs Brown's Boys D'Movie]] (2014)
 
*[[Mrs Brown's Boys D'Movie]] (2014)
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*[[My Life In Ruins]] (2009)
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*[[Nativity 3: Dude, Where's My Donkey]] (2014)
  
 
*[[New Year's Eve]] (2011)
 
*[[New Year's Eve]] (2011)
  
 
*[[Norbit]] (2007)
 
*[[Norbit]] (2007)
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*[[Ocean's 12]] (2004)
  
 
*[[Pain & Gain]] (2013)
 
*[[Pain & Gain]] (2013)
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*[[Palindromes]] (2004)
 
*[[Palindromes]] (2004)
  
* [[Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl]] (2003) / [[Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest]] (2006) / [[Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End]] (2007)
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*[[Paul Blart: Mall Cop]] (2009)
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*[[Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl]] (2003) / [[Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest]] (2006) / [[Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End]] (2007)
  
 
*[[Pokemon: The First Movie]] (1999)
 
*[[Pokemon: The First Movie]] (1999)
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*[[Rambo]] (2008)
 
*[[Rambo]] (2008)
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*[[Revenge Of The Sexually Pathological Voyeur]] (2009)
  
 
*[[Revolver]] (2005)
 
*[[Revolver]] (2005)
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*[[Santa Clause 3]] (2006)
 
*[[Santa Clause 3]] (2006)
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*[[Sex And The City]] (2008)
  
 
*[[Sex and the City 2]] (2010)
 
*[[Sex and the City 2]] (2010)
  
 
*[[Sex Lives Of The Potato Men]] (2005)
 
*[[Sex Lives Of The Potato Men]] (2005)
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*[[Computer game|Silent Hill]] (2006)
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*[[Song To Song]] (2017)
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*[[Southland Tales]] (2007)
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*[[St Trinian's]] (2007)
  
 
*[[Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith]] (2005)
 
*[[Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith]] (2005)
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*[[Straightheads]] (2007)
  
 
*[[Sucker Punch]] (2011)
 
*[[Sucker Punch]] (2011)
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*[[Superbad]] (2007)
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*[[Swept Away]] (2001)
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*[[Terminator Saladnation]] (2009)
  
 
*[[The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning]] (2006)
 
*[[The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning]] (2006)
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*[[Transformers]] (2007) / [[Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen]] (2009) / [[Transformers: Dark Of The Moon]] (2011) / [[Transformers: Age Of Extinction]] (2014) (but not [[Transformers: The Movie]] (1986))
 
*[[Transformers]] (2007) / [[Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen]] (2009) / [[Transformers: Dark Of The Moon]] (2011) / [[Transformers: Age Of Extinction]] (2014) (but not [[Transformers: The Movie]] (1986))
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*[[2012]] (2009)
  
 
*[[Valentine's Day]] (2010)
 
*[[Valentine's Day]] (2010)
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*[[We Don't Live Here Anymore]] (2005)
 
*[[We Don't Live Here Anymore]] (2005)
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*[[Wolves At The Door]] (2017)
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*[[Youth Without Youth]] (2007)
  
 
*[[Zidane]] (or Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait) (2006)
 
*[[Zidane]] (or Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait) (2006)
 
*[[2012]] (2009)
 
  
 
See [[:Category:Rantables]] for a full list
 
See [[:Category:Rantables]] for a full list

Latest revision as of 12:00, 14 April 2018

Kermodian: "A style of criticism that involves both wit and erudition, but also a certain world-weary curmudgeonliness" - Ian Brooks, managing editor of Collins Dictionaries and Thesauruses

Mark Kermode has, upon times, become more than usually agitated by what he sees as the particularly poor qualities of a film. When this happens it has become known as a Kermodian rant. Simon Mayo has observed that for a film to incur a full blown Kermodian Rant there has to be a "secondary infection", whereby the film is not only exhibiting poor quality, but is also offensive in some way to the Old Trot.

The phrase has its origins in a long argument debate between Mark and Simon about the word "Lacanian" in Basic Instinct 2 (in the words of David Morrissey, "there is one joke in Basic Instinct 2 - and I think you have killed it.") It was in response to this that a listener (Joe in Leeds) suggested that someone critiquing the arts in a gloriously lengthy rant should be described as Kermodian. Thus, an adjective was born.

The very next week, Ian Brooks, managing editor of Collins Dictionaries and Thesauruses, appeared on the programme to assess how likely the word "Kermodian" might appear on his books' pages. (The moment he introduced himself, he was immediately contradicted by both the Good Doctors, who felt it should be Thesauri.)

Mr Brooks suggested Kermodian (rather that "Kermodesque") because people stress the second syllable, although Mark insisted that it should be the first - but that people find it hilarious to emphasise the second because that makes Mark's name sounds like a portable toilet.

Kermodian has been used in the Northern Ireland assembly.

Films that produced notable rants, or are otherwise detested by Mark even many years after release, have been:

  • Zidane (or Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait) (2006)

See Category:Rantables for a full list

On the plus side, these rants have on occasion proved to have healing properties. One listener put their recovery from a coma down to having the Angels and Demons rant played to them.

See also Everyone involved should be thoroughly ashamed